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Pat

You make some interesting points! People go to coffee shops for different reasons, some to catch up with old friends, others to get some work done outside of the house, with easy access to caffeine and wifi. I wouldn't consider Zoka or most coffee shops to be a good place to meet people though. In fact, getting as much as a hello from the person sitting literally inches away from you is more exception than norm.

I was actually somewhat surprised to see Zoka open in Kirkland, given the number of coffee shops in a 2 block radius: Ladro, Kahili, St James, Starbucks, and at the time Tully's (now closed). Although it's definitely nicer than the 'original' coffee shop (Triple J flashback), I find they could have made the store more comfortable. Whereas the Green Lake location has wood furniture and comfy leather couches, the location in Kirkland has metal stools and what looks like medical tray tables to welcome you.

I'm not a big fan of Starbucks, but I don't really see the chain as being very different than 'independent' stores. The Rose Hill Starbucks on 85th is often full past 9pm on a weekday, where large groups gather, moving around tables and chairs to accommodate. The coffee may not be as good, but it's surprisingly lively (it's the Eastside after all!). I also find it unfortunate that over the last couple of years, Zoka has increased their prices by about 30%.

Joe McCarthy

Pat: thanks for sharing your experiences at the different Zokas and other coffeehouses in the area! I used to go once a week or so to the original Zoka when I worked in the University District during 2002-2004, and did find that the Greenlake coffeehouse was more conducive to conversation and community than the newest one. Part of that was certainly due to the leather chairs that you noted - I remember often sitting at a 90 degree angle to someone who was reading a book, and occasionally striking up a conversation about the book.

Another noteworthy feature in Greenlake is their relatively small, easily reconfigurable, square tables that start out each day with spaces between them for solitary and pairs of people, but can easily be pushed together for larger planned or impromptu gatherings, perhaps similar to what you described at the local Starbucks. I noted the beautiful communal table at Kirkland Zoka in my original post; Melissa Allison's blog post about Kirkland Zoka reveals that the table is cut from "a slice of a giant tree stump -- technically, four maples that grew together".

However, on a recent exchange in the comments on Esme Vos' blog post reflecting on Starbucks' (and the U.S.) cafe culture (or lack thereof), she noted that European cafes - which typically have communal tables - also typically have an assortment of communal newspapers and magazines atop them. I did not see any newspapers or magazines on the tables in Kirkland, although I do remember stacks of free weekly, biweekly and monthly newspapers - The Seattle Weekly, The Stranger, Evergreen Monthly, etc. - prominently placed around the table across from the front entrance in the Green Lake store.

Thanks for the tip regarding the lively sense of community you've found at the Rose Hill Kirkland Starbucks - I'll look forward to experiencing some of that first-hand soon.

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